Mr. Varoufakis gave an interview to George Papadakis at the morning show of ANT1, where he spoke, once again, about discussion and not breach.
The Minister began talking about the agreement: "It's a great success, a truly great success. For five years Europe is sliding into a memorandum process that began in Greece in May 2010, then extended to other countries such as Ireland, Portugal and Spain. This process, this automated thrift, the idea that there is a orientation which ultimately strengthens the deflationary debt crisis, creating a humanitarian crisis that leaves the Eurozone nations without hope. There is a program which was agreed by the previous governments, the Memorandum, the loan agreement, all this giddiness that we lived the past five years. However, the state continues, there is a signature of previous governments that binds us. This is a principle, but there is another principle. And the other principle is that we had elections and Greeks gave us a command. To question the logic and the philosophy of this memorandum. Now the combination of these two principles, is the respect for the current program and the need to count the elections.
"One of the things that was said to me the first time I went in European capitals, is that “the elections will not change anything, you are in a program, a memorandum of agreement between your state and its partners, you must apply it.” If we'd really agreed and went out to the people, not only Greeks but also the Irish, the French, and say that democracy has been disestablished because of Eurocrisis, to whom do you think we would give the greatest gift? For me, to Golden Dawn, to Le Pen, to Nigel Farage in Britain, all anti-Europeans who say for so long that in Europe there is no more democracy and that it is a ghost. "Let's stop elections" I said once to Mr. Schaeuble. We have blown two Eurogroups, we insisted to combine policy with an economic debate. We accomplished through this great conflict until the third Eurogroup to change the correlations from where we were on our own, we overthrew it. We showed that we are willing to cooperate. "
"I had written an article with despair during spring of 2012, when the parliament was ready to vote for the second memorandum. I said that it was our last chance, addressing the deputies who voted for the second memorandum, because they essentially tied up the next governments, minimizing the degrees of freedom. And every day that passed by since then, every time we took a installment, we were substantially reducing the negotiating power of Greece. And as deeper we got into this black hole, the more difficult it was to get out.
"The Greeks voted a government that finally would say no. The memorandum is over. Let me explain what the memorandum means for me. Loans and austerity are permanent blackout. The terms of the Memorandum disdained the concept of reformation in Greek society. We pensioners and hairdressers while the great interweaving were managing the reformation. It is like in Iraq, when they hear about democracy they think that they will get bombed."
The ambiguity in the agreement was proposed by the partners, and it is deliberate as the minister underlined, because in this way it will be voted more easily by the parliaments of other countries.
Specifically, answering a question by the journalist about the ambiguities in the agreement, Mr. Varoufakis said: "We are proud of the degree of ambiguity in the agreement. I will refer to a specific discussion in Brussels. They told me “we understand the economic rationale that you present us Yanis Varoufakis, that you cannot have a primary surplus of 4.5% over the next 10 years because this will destroy the private sector.” And they also told me “we agree, but you know what? If we are about to agree now and then go to vote this at our parliaments, if we put a number in there or if you say that you remove your previous commitment, it will not be voted.” And they suggested us to use an unclear determination. They requested this from us. That's why we agreed to leave it unclear. I will be the first MOF that will never refer to numbers if I'm not sure I will be able to make it happen. If I say a number, it will be a lie.
"We will not increase the taxes in the islands, the medicine taxes, in the borders, in food, books and printed material.
"The text of the agreement concerns the humanitarian crisis. We were blamed for this condition, they said we politicized the conversation . I told them I'm here because there are people out there who are starving, people who fear of starving. Houses without electricity, kids are doing their homework with candles. I explained that the existing program, cannot exist anymore.
"We don't live in a real European democracy. The way that Eurogroup is operating, is ineffective. There is not even a discussion. We are in a Europe that has undermined itself , unfortunately. You even see the European Commission, which is the government of Europe, it should be, being under obligation towards the Eurogroup, which I remind you, doesn't exist. Institutionally there is no Eurogroup. I'm saying this for five years now".
In Frankfurt an undercover German Police accompanying Mr. Varoufakis to the toilet, told him: "I want to thank you for what you do, because Europe needs to change even for us Germans."
"This agreement is not the program of the government. Our program is for four years. The procedures that aim to relieve our weakest citizens, will be applied immediately. This text is just what we needed as Eurogroup to finalize the memorandum. We told them that the memorandum will no be applied, beat us, torture us, we will not apply it because it's part of the problem and not the solution. This text is the reformations that we will do, it came basically in the place of Memorandum. If we had not done it, we would have to reduce pensions, to increase the taxes in the islands, or leave the euro. This is something which we have committed that will not happen. The people want to regain dignity, someone to say no to absurdity".
"I am sad with what Manolis Glezos said, but I am not sad with what Milios said. But I am convinced if we have the opportunity to sit (with Glezos) in a room one hour to explain what we did and what we achieved, we will be able to convince him".
Finally, Yanis Varoufakis made reference to a citizen card, smart card, which includes a microchip such as bank cards, which will belong to the State, and will generally work to the State as even ID, with access to the NHS and in any service of the State. At the same time, there will be a weekly credit for those living below the absolute poverty, to use it in the supermarket, without waiting in line and going into specific social groceries.